From: "G.D.Mutch" Subject: Disc Data Table To: zeropoint I did recieve the echo about my Square theroy. But I never recieved the echo about the Disc Table Data...=20 Gm I never recieved the echo of this mail...=20 -------------------------8< ----------- insert ----------------------------------- Atten : Dr Christie >What if I said I already know the principles of how to build such a device= ??? >I would then spend the next six months just trying to convincing those on the list.=20 >They in turn would spend a proportional amount of time proving me= otherwise.=20 >They would then finally arrive at the conclusion: that nothing but absolute proof will convince them. Proof that I can't/won't deliver... not yet. What's the big deal anyway just another aeroplane. These types of devices operate on a very embarrassing simple principle. Billions of people already know the principle and don't realize the potential of it. This is a sad disheartening fact to a lot of technical people. As far as energy production goes: it appears people are sailing down the amazons river dying of thirst ,when they only have to wake up and dip a cup into the water. There is many and various types of energy systems every where, some so simple in concept is not funny. I only wish >I knew the finer details of how to build them. :) > >Here is some minor technical details of such a disc. You are welcome to check my >math if you like. I'm the first to confess I'm no absolute genius at math. I take responsibility for any mistakes. The below is the operational power of 'ONE' design of >such a device. The design is simply magnified/scaled in proportional size. There is many different possible designs, with varying operational data. This theoretical data table is derived from one such LAW of nature. I'm no expert, nor do I confess to be. I'm still >on the path of knowledge like everyone else. > > DISC DATA TABLE 01-02-97 =20 > (By G.D.Mutch ) > Dia./m Height/m Area m2. Gross Load t. Net Thrust kg Gross Thrust= kg=20 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > 1 =A6 0.14 =A6 7.93 =A6 6.83 =A6 7512.71 =A6 = 8195.68 =A6=20 > 2 =A6 0.29 =A6 31.74 =A6 27.32 =A6 30050.83 =A6 32782.73 =A6=20 > 3 =A6 0.43 =A6 71.4 =A6 61.47 =A6 67614.38 =A6 73761.14 =A6 =20 > 4 =A6 0.57 =A6 126.94 =A6 109.28 =A6 120203.34 =A6 131130.91 =A6=20 > 5 =A6 0.71 =A6 198.35 =A6 170.74 =A6 187817.71 =A6 204892.05 =A6=20 > 6 =A6 0.86 =A6 285.62 =A6 245.87 =A6 270457.51 =A6 295044.55 =A6=20 > 7 =A6 1 =A6 388.76 =A6 334.66 =A6 368122.72 =A6 401588.42 =A6=20 > 8 =A6 1.14 =A6 507.77 =A6 437.1 =A6 480813.35 =A6 524523.65 =A6=20 > 9 =A6 1.29 =A6 642.64 =A6 553.21 =A6 608529.39 =A6 663850.24 =A6=20 > 10 =A6 1.43 =A6 793.39 =A6 682.97 =A6 751270.85 =A6 819568.2 =A6=20 > 11 =A6 1.57 =A6 960 =A6 826.4 =A6 909037.73 =A6 991677.52 =A6=20 > 12 =A6 1.72 =A6 1142.48 =A6 983.48 =A6 1081830.03 =A6 1180178.21 =A6=20 > 13 =A6 1.86 =A6 1340.82 =A6 1154.23 =A6 1269647.74 =A6 1385070.26 =A6=20 > 14 =A6 2 =A6 1555.04 =A6 1338.63 =A6 1472490.87 =A6 1606353.68 =A6=20 > 15 =A6 2.14 =A6 1785.12 =A6 1536.69 =A6 1690359.42 =A6 1844028.46 =A6=20 > 16 =A6 2.29 =A6 2031.07 =A6 1748.41 =A6 1923253.38 =A6 2098094.6 =A6=20 > 17 =A6 2.43 =A6 2292.89 =A6 1973.79 =A6 2171172.76 =A6 2368552.1 =A6=20 > 18 =A6 2.57 =A6 2570.57 =A6 2212.83 =A6 2434117.56 =A6 2655400.98 =A6=20 > 19 =A6 2.72 =A6 2864.13 =A6 2465.53 =A6 2712087.78 =A6 2958641.21 =A6=20 > 20 =A6 2.86 =A6 3173.55 =A6 2731.89 =A6 3005083.41 =A6 3278272.81 =A6=20 > 21 =A6 3 =A6 3498.83 =A6 3011.91 =A6 3313104.46 =A6 3614295.77 =A6=20 > 22 =A6 3.15 =A6 3839.99 =A6 3305.59 =A6 3636150.92 =A6 3966710.1 =A6=20 > 23 =A6 3.29 =A6 4197.01 =A6 3612.93 =A6 3974222.81 =A6 4335515.79 =A6=20 > 24 =A6 3.43 =A6 4569.91 =A6 3933.93 =A6 4327320.11 =A6 4720712.85 =A6=20 > 25 =A6 3.57 =A6 4958.67 =A6 4268.58 =A6 4695442.83 =A6 5122301.26 =A6=20 > 26 =A6 3.72 =A6 5363.29 =A6 4616.9 =A6 5078590.96 =A6 5540281.05 =A6=20 > 27 =A6 3.86 =A6 5783.79 =A6 4978.88 =A6 5476764.51 =A6 5974652.19 =A6=20 > 28 =A6 4 =A6 6220.15 =A6 5354.51 =A6 5889963.48 =A6 6425414.71 =A6=20 > 29 =A6 4.15 =A6 6672.38 =A6 5743.81 =A6 6318187.87 =A6 6892568.58 =A6=20 > 30 =A6 4.29 =A6 7140.48 =A6 6146.76 =A6 6761437.67 =A6 7376113.82 =A6=20 > 31 =A6 4.43 =A6 7624.44 =A6 6563.38 =A6 7219712.89 =A6 7876050.42 =A6=20 > 32 =A6 4.58 =A6 8124.28 =A6 6993.65 =A6 7693013.53 =A6 8392378.39 =A6=20 > 33 =A6 4.72 =A6 8639.98 =A6 7437.58 =A6 8181339.58 =A6 8925097.72 =A6=20 > 34 =A6 4.86 =A6 9171.55 =A6 7895.17 =A6 8684691.05 =A6 9474208.42 =A6=20 > 35 =A6 5 =A6 9718.98 =A6 8366.43 =A6 9203067.94 =A6 10039710.48 =A6=20 > 36 =A6 5.15 =A6 10282.29 =A6 8851.34 =A6 9736470.24 =A6 10621603.9 =A6=20 > 37 =A6 5.29 =A6 10861.46 =A6 9349.91 =A6 10284897.97 =A6 11219888.69 =A6=20 > 38 =A6 5.43 =A6 11456.5 =A6 9862.14 =A6 10848351.1 =A6 11834564.84 =A6=20 > 39 =A6 5.58 =A6 12067.41 =A6 10388.03 =A6 11426829.66 =A6 12465632.36 =A6=20 > 40 =A6 5.72 =A6 12694.18 =A6 10927.58 =A6 12020333.63 =A6 13113091.24 =A6=20 > 41 =A6 5.86 =A6 13336.83 =A6 11480.78 =A6 12628863.02 =A6 13776941.48 =A6=20 > 42 =A6 6 =A6 13995.34 =A6 12047.65 =A6 13252417.83 =A6 14457183.09 =A6=20 > 43 =A6 6.15 =A6 14669.72 =A6 12628.18 =A6 13890998.06 =A6 15153816.06 =A6=20 > 44 =A6 6.29 =A6 15359.96 =A6 13222.37 =A6 14544603.7 =A6 15866840.4 =A6=20 > 45 =A6 6.43 =A6 16066.08 =A6 13830.21 =A6 15213234.75 =A6 16596256.1 =A6=20 > 46 =A6 6.58 =A6 16788.06 =A6 14451.72 =A6 15896891.23 =A6 17342063.16 =A6=20 > > Dia./m Height/m Area m2. Gross Load t. Net Thrust kg Gross Thrust= kg=20 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > 47 =A6 6.72 =A6 17525.91 =A6 15086.88 =A6 16595573.12 =A6 = 18104261.59 =A6=20 > 48 =A6 6.86 =A6 18279.62 =A6 15735.71 =A6 17309280.43 =A6 = 18882851.38 =A6=20 > 49 =A6 7.01 =A6 19049.21 =A6 16398.19 =A6 18038013.16 =A6 = 19677832.54 =A6=20 > 50 =A6 7.15 =A6 19834.66 =A6 17074.34 =A6 18781771.3 =A6 = 20489205.06 =A6=20 > 51 =A6 7.29 =A6 20635.98 =A6 17764.14 =A6 19540554.86 =A6 = 21316968.94 =A6=20 > 52 =A6 7.43 =A6 21453.17 =A6 18467.6 =A6 20314363.84 =A6 = 22161124.19 =A6=20 > 53 =A6 7.58 =A6 22286.23 =A6 19184.73 =A6 21103198.24 =A6 = 23021670.8 =A6=20 > 54 =A6 7.72 =A6 23135.15 =A6 19915.51 =A6 21907058.05 =A6 = 23898608.78 =A6=20 > 55 =A6 7.86 =A6 23999.94 =A6 20659.95 =A6 22725943.28 =A6 = 24791938.12 =A6=20 > 56 =A6 8.01 =A6 24880.6 =A6 21418.05 =A6 23559853.92 =A6 = 25701658.82 =A6=20 > 57 =A6 8.15 =A6 25777.13 =A6 22189.81 =A6 24408789.98 =A6 = 26627770.89 =A6=20 > 58 =A6 8.29 =A6 26689.52 =A6 22975.23 =A6 25272751.46 =A6 = 27570274.32 =A6=20 > 59 =A6 8.44 =A6 27617.78 =A6 23774.31 =A6 26151738.36 =A6 = 28529169.12 =A6=20 > 60 =A6 8.58 =A6 28561.91 =A6 24587.05 =A6 27045750.68 =A6 = 29504455.28 =A6=20 > 61 =A6 8.72 =A6 29521.91 =A6 25413.44 =A6 27954788.41 =A6 = 30496132.81 =A6=20 > 62 =A6 8.86 =A6 30497.78 =A6 26253.5 =A6 28878851.55 =A6 = 31504201.7 =A6=20 > 63 =A6 9.01 =A6 31489.51 =A6 27107.22 =A6 29817940.12 =A6 = 32528661.95 =A6=20 > 64 =A6 9.15 =A6 32497.11 =A6 27974.59 =A6 30772054.1 =A6 = 33569513.57 =A6=20 > 65 =A6 9.29 =A6 33520.58 =A6 28855.63 =A6 31741193.5 =A6 = 34626756.55 =A6=20 > 66 =A6 9.44 =A6 34559.91 =A6 29750.33 =A6 32725358.32 =A6 = 35700390.89 =A6=20 > 67 =A6 9.58 =A6 35615.12 =A6 30658.68 =A6 33724548.55 =A6 = 36790416.6 =A6=20 > 68 =A6 9.72 =A6 36686.19 =A6 31580.69 =A6 34738764.2 =A6 = 37896833.67 =A6=20 > 69 =A6 9.86 =A6 37773.13 =A6 32516.37 =A6 35768005.27 =A6 = 39019642.11 =A6=20 > 70 =A6 10.01 =A6 38875.94 =A6 33465.7 =A6 36812271.75 =A6 = 40158841.91 =A6=20 > 71 =A6 10.15 =A6 39994.61 =A6 34428.69 =A6 37871563.65 =A6 = 41314433.08 =A6=20 > 72 =A6 10.29 =A6 41129.15 =A6 35405.35 =A6 38945880.97 =A6 = 42486415.61 =A6=20 > 73 =A6 10.44 =A6 42279.56 =A6 36395.66 =A6 40035223.71 =A6 = 43674789.5 =A6=20 > 74 =A6 10.58 =A6 43445.84 =A6 37399.63 =A6 41139591.86 =A6 = 44879554.76 =A6=20 > 75 =A6 10.72 =A6 44627.99 =A6 38417.26 =A6 42258985.43 =A6 = 46100711.38 =A6=20 > 76 =A6 10.87 =A6 45826 =A6 39448.55 =A6 43393404.42 =A6 = 47338259.36 =A6=20 > 77 =A6 11.01 =A6 47039.88 =A6 40493.5 =A6 44542848.82 =A6 = 48592198.71 =A6=20 > 78 =A6 11.15 =A6 48269.63 =A6 41552.11 =A6 45707318.64 =A6 = 49862529.43 =A6=20 > 79 =A6 11.29 =A6 49515.25 =A6 42624.38 =A6 46886813.88 =A6 = 51149251.5 =A6=20 > 80 =A6 11.44 =A6 50776.73 =A6 43710.3 =A6 48081334.53 =A6 = 52452364.95 =A6=20 > 81 =A6 11.58 =A6 52054.08 =A6 44809.89 =A6 49290880.61 =A6 = 53771869.75 =A6=20 > 82 =A6 11.72 =A6 53347.3 =A6 45923.14 =A6 50515452.09 =A6 = 55107765.92 =A6=20 > 83 =A6 11.87 =A6 54656.39 =A6 47050.04 =A6 51755049 =A6 = 56460053.46 =A6=20 > 84 =A6 12.01 =A6 55981.35 =A6 48190.61 =A6 53009671.32 =A6 = 57828732.35 =A6=20 > 85 =A6 12.15 =A6 57322.17 =A6 49344.84 =A6 54279319.06 =A6 = 59213802.62 =A6=20 > 86 =A6 12.3 =A6 58678.86 =A6 50512.72 =A6 55563992.22 =A6 = 60615264.24 =A6=20 > 87 =A6 12.44 =A6 60051.42 =A6 51694.26 =A6 56863690.8 =A6 = 62033117.23 =A6=20 > 88 =A6 12.58 =A6 61439.85 =A6 52889.47 =A6 58178414.79 =A6 = 63467361.59 =A6=20 > 89 =A6 12.72 =A6 62844.14 =A6 54098.33 =A6 59508164.19 =A6 = 64917997.3 =A6=20 > 90 =A6 12.87 =A6 64264.3 =A6 55320.85 =A6 60852939.02 =A6 = 66385024.39 =A6=20 > 91 =A6 13.01 =A6 65700.33 =A6 56557.04 =A6 62212739.26 =A6 = 67868442.83 =A6=20 > 92 =A6 13.15 =A6 67152.23 =A6 57806.88 =A6 63587564.92 =A6 = 69368252.64 =A6=20 > > Dia./m Height/m Area m2. Gross Load t. Net Thrust kg Gross Thrust= kg=20 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > 93 =A6 13.3 =A6 68619.99 =A6 59070.38 =A6 64977416.0 =A6 = 70884453.82 =A6=20 > 94 =A6 13.44 =A6 70103.63 =A6 60347.54 =A6 66382292.49 =A6 = 72417046.35 =A6=20 > 95 =A6 13.58 =A6 71603.13 =A6 61638.36 =A6 67802194.4 =A6 = 73966030.26 =A6=20 > 96 =A6 13.73 =A6 73118.5 =A6 62942.84 =A6 69237121.73 =A6 = 75531405.52 =A6=20 > 97 =A6 13.87 =A6 74649.73 =A6 64260.98 =A6 70687074.47 =A6 = 77113172.15 =A6=20 > 98 =A6 14.01 =A6 76196.83 =A6 65592.78 =A6 72152052.64 =A6 = 78711330.15 =A6=20 > 99 =A6 14.15 =A6 77759.81 =A6 66938.23 =A6 73632056.21 =A6 = 80325879.51 =A6=20 > 100 =A6 14.3 =A6 79338.64 =A6 68297.35 =A6 75127085.21 =A6 = 81956820.23 =A6=20 > 150 =A6 21.45 =A6 78511.95 =A6 153669.04 =A6 69035941.72 =A6 = 84402845.51 =A6=20 > 200 =A6 28.59 =A6 37354.58 =A6 273189.4 =A6 300508340.84 =A6 = 327827280.91 =A6=20 > 250 =A6 35.74 =A6 95866.53 =A6 426858.44 =A6 469544282.56 =A6 = 512230126.43 =A6=20 > 300 =A6 42.89 =A6 714047.8 =A6 614676.15 =A6 676143766.89 =A6 = 737611382.06 =A6=20 > 350 =A6 50.04 =A6 971898.4 =A6 836642.54 =A6 920306793.82 =A6 = 1003971047.8 =A6=20 > 400 =A6 7.19 =A6 1269418.32 =A6 1092757.6 =A6 1202033363.35 =A6 = 1311309123.66 =A6=20 > 450 =A6 64.34 =A6 1606607.56 =A6 1383021.34 =A6 1521323475.49 =A6 = 1659625609.63 =A6=20 > 500 =A6 71.49 =A6 1983466.12 =A6 1707433.75 =A6 1878177130.24 =A6 = 2048920505.72 =A6=20 > 550 =A6 78.63 =A6 2399994.01 =A6 2065994.84 =A6 2272594327.59 =A6 = 2479193811.92 =A6=20 > 600 =A6 85.78 =A6 2856191.22 =A6 2458704.61 =A6 2704575067.54 =A6 = 2950445528.23 =A6=20 > 650 =A6 92.93 =A6 3352057.75 =A6 2885563.05 =A6 3174119350.1 =A6 = 3462675654.66 =A6=20 > 700 =A6 100.08 =A6 3887593.6 =A6 3346570.16 =A6 3681227175.27 =A6 = 4015884191.2 =A6=20 > 750 =A6 107.23 =A6 4462798.78 =A6 3841725.95 =A6 4225898543.04 =A6 = 4610071137.86 =A6=20 > 800 =A6 114.38 =A6 5077673.28 =A6 4371030.41 =A6 4808133453.41 =A6 = 5245236494.63 =A6=20 > 850 =A6 121.53 =A6 5732217.1 =A6 4934483.55 =A6 5427931906.39 =A6 = 5921380261.52 =A6=20 > 900 =A6 128.67 =A6 6426430.24 =A6 5532085.37 =A6 6085293901.97 =A6 = 6638502438.52 =A6=20 > 950 =A6 135.82 =A6 7160312.71 =A6 6163835.85 =A6 6780219440.16 =A6 = 7396603025.63 =A6=20 > 1000 =A6 142.97 =A6 7933864.49 =A6 6829735.02 =A6 7512708520.96 =A6 = 8195682022.86 =A6=20 > > =20 >Diameter =3D The diameter of the disc design. >Height =3D The top to bottom height at the center. >Area m2 =3D One cone surface area. Ie. top or bottom of disc. >Gross Load =3D Recommend Disc + Max Payload weight. (Around 1/12 of Gross Thrust.) >Net Thrust =3D Available thrust when using Maximum Payload. >Gross Thrust =3D Theoretical Maximum-Motive-force available from the disc= design. > >Both thrust measurements apply to both lift and forward motive force: they are one and the same. The estimated forward flight of such a vehicle would be around 40,000 mph (66800 kmh) this would allow access to anywhere in the globe in around 30mins maxmium. =20 > >The above circular disc design was used as a reference, I could have easily quoted >a cube, pyramid or tetrahedron, what ever design you desire. Size and shape play no part what so ever in designing a craft for various types of= operation. > > >WARNING!, if you are seeking proof of the above calculations, you better approach me with a VERY open mind. I warn you I will take you into some weird and wonderful principles and belief systems. I again warn that some technical people will be let down by the simple operation of this principle. That is probably the reason why this is not spoken about at high tech levels. All correspondence will be posted to the list. I'm not a physicist so easy up on the math. :) > >N.B. >When straightening the columns I may have inadvertently deleted some= figures ? > >Comments, corrections, flames all welcome.=20 >G.D.Mutch mutchg@topaz.cqu.edu.au >