faith01.txt ............................... zeropoint: The posts on "Overunity Society" and "Christian Arithmetic" in particular deal with the thinking displayed by @PHEE with his rhetorical question, "I wonder how far inwards it goes, though?" The question follows the reasoning developing orders or DEGREES of magnitude... re read the post. It has been said repeatedly that divisions toward naught are in groups of orders of magnitude. But the division is QUALITATIVE, not quantitative. Space is divided by the degrees of its "folding". See the the circumference become the radius (radian). See the radian become a point become Godhead or "absolute vacuum." @PHEE, "it" goes inward as far as godhead, the ultimate boson. The division of the neutron is not like a sliced grapefruit, it is to the octant. The octant is not divided into half a tetrahedron. The octant is divided to its sides. The sides are not divided to forty five degree angled "pie slices" but to their edges. The edges are not divided by length, but to the point where the octants originate, the point of origen of the (x,y,z)=(0,0,0), the boson. Read through the New Testament book Revelations. The anatomy of the basic unit of matter, the proton or the neutron is discussed there. The sides are the twenty four "elders" who are sitting in the "Throne Room" of God Almighty, the three sides of each octant, that is. Whether it is a universe, a galaxy, a sun, a planet, a "flying saucer", an EDS (electrodynamic sphere or beebee), or an atom heavy or proton, the division of that body leads to godhead. That is why the eleven (or ten) dimensional universe can be expressed in terms of five (or four) dimensions: the "effective five dimensions." The triad of proton, heavy atom, surface, does not necessarily have to be threaded on any scale where it obtains, e.g., sun, galaxy, universe; or universe, cluster of universes, parent universe. Dr. Miller's work, pointed to on the page, shows that the proton is not the final stopping point for an entity, there being the "hydrino." The EDS, the beebee of the flux capacitor in particular, asserts itself as a mote gratifying the lattice structure for the existence of an entity. Each beebee behaves as an atom. Each beebee tries to form part of a larger structure with the surrounding beebees, a pseudo heavy atom. The "ring currents" (see beebee.htm) of each beebee attempt to coalesce with those of the others as would the electrons of atoms forming a molecule, to make an encompassing cloud. They can't. As the collection of these freshly created electrons frustrates homeostasis, the beebees continue to create them, causing the production of energy we call vacuum energy, free energy, a flux capacitor. The "timer" our new member, @shall, is interested in is the stepped orderliness of the qualitative division of space, which the constituents to the flux capacitor are frustrated to organize into a giant beebee, a "heavy beebee". We see, therefore, why the recently reiterated and re-reiterated question of @mentor was so important to my own stimulation to realization and deepened understanding of the life-function in terms of physics rather than solely in terms of the spiritual or city, state, federal, or Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Yes, people in a wholesome social environment act like hydrogen atoms impacted by the forces of a super nova, they join. A second supernova joins the joined into yet heavier entities. There is a "natural" stepping toward grandeur. (This beauty of natural growth toward structural unity is being countered by incredibly stupid or malignantly influenced tinkerers in secret possession of technology they do not understand. Americans are being broken down to naked individuality: you and you and you and you, with the "inner city" being waved in front of the national eye each time some aspect of the national fabric of familyhood is to be rent, torn; so that we will accede to the tolling of the bell, but across the tracks. When the bell tolls in America, it tolls for America as a unified entity.) Finally, I repeat: at the level of the surface, there is an arrest of unification unless the surface may join with others. This does not mean smelting together two or more ingots. It means a QUALITATIVE joining so as to make another authentic entity which can interact in turn with other authentic entities and so on. There is no limit, which is why the universe "does not care or know how big it is!" Jacob's ladder has no top nor bottom and the angels ascending and descending that ladder never get where they are headed. I HOPE THIS IS GETTING THROUGH! The act of creation demonstrated in Beatitudes, The Sermon On The Mount, with the fishes and the loaves, is a demonstration of the creation we see in the crudity of physics with toroidal effusions from a central vacuum lattice structure which is a man, MAN, "A" MAN. The difference between an "ordinary" man and a "real" man is that the "real" man can thread the cosmos is all its indeterminacy of scale. That is the nature of a Christos. I remind you, there are TWO types of Christ. There is the individual PERSON Christos, and there is the individual NATION Christos; these are Messiah Ben Judah and Messiah Ben Joseph, respectively. One is the individual and the other is the nation, respectively. To tie this in with alien transportation of other peoples such as the Moldenac and the evacuees from the Alpha Centauri star system, The Hebs are derivative of the humans which were CREATED ON THIS PLANET AND WHO HAVE EARTH AS THEIR HOME AND WHO WERE DESTINED TO RULE IT. This planet is "owned" by the Anglo Saxon, who is the spawn of Joseph through Ephraim and Manasses (Manasseh), who were charged with the generation of Messiah (Mossioch) Ben Joseph, according to the blessing and birthright conferred by their GrandFather, Israel, so named by God was Jacob. The standard for personhood (as demonstrated by cited descriptions of the society and mentality of the Greys, they do not and CANNOT "transgress") is set by Jesus, a product of Judah, the tribe upon which befell the duties and prerogatives of kingship owing to Reuben, the firstborn of Israel and now known as France, having screwed a woman screwed by his father, Israel; the second-born Simeon (Irish) having demonstrated a pathological rage which never diminished even over the 486 years of captivity in Egypt during which time the sons became tribes; and Levi who went on the murderous spree with Simeon but who got over the rage, though he was assigned spiritual responsibility of guardianship of the linking of the national amalgam as the "Priest Tribe" to hold no property in Canaan. Judah is the fourth born to Jacob-Israel; and he the one who is first quoted in the bible: "Why should we kill our brother when we can sell him." He was referring to Joseph in the pit while the brothers plotted to do away with him out of jealousy over his preference by their biological father, as well as their outrage over the dream he reported... that the planets, the sun, and the moon bowed down to him, which they did when he was Honcho under the Pharoah; and which they do now as the world, awed by this latter-day Babylon, the United States of America, out of his first-born son, Manasses, eventually quartered in Sussex County, England, from which most "WASPS" in this country came. Most Englishmen coming to the colonies came from Manasses. Englishmen had an ancient memory of migrating from the east. When the ten so-called lost tribes were taken captive, they were taken to Hamon, north, by the forerunners of modern Germany, the Assyrians (not the Syrians.) Then the Assyrians got dizzy and after about 130 years, they meandered (wandered) north and west losing dominion over the chattels they had taken as the ten tribes of "Samaria". Note that the "remnant" knew where the ten tribes were and communicated with them up to the time that the apostles were dispatched to minister to them, with Thomas going to southern India. Saint Paul was "adopted" as an Apostle to do something with the Jews, which included Simeon and Levi and Benjamin (the homosexuals), contiguous with Judah. Simeon had inheritance of cities dispersed throughout the "property" of Judah. The Israelites were famous for being a seafaring or pelagic people. They were familiar with Ireland and England for hundreds of years before JC popped out Mary without human insemination. Mary was the last woman to be consort to the gods as described in Genesis. (There was telepathic communication between John the Baptist and Jesus the Christ of God while both were still in their mothers.) ............................... <---- Begin Forwarded Message ----> From: "zeropoint" Subject: 002 Astronomy The root post to which this is a response is a declaration of despair by its author. @PHEE is attempting to sum up and to characterize rather than attempting to discuss deliberatively the substance of the discussion. @PHEE is not the only one who has failed to talk about the actual details of the physics involved; had he done so, he would have been the second one, joining zeropoint. The only individual to make a specific comment on the grid of any kind was @clarkkent, who pointed out an error in typing out the letters and signs (-,+) of the axes of the grid. Even though the curse of work has been lifted by the ministrations of your Lord and mine, Jesus H. Christ, some final effort has to be made to fully lift the veil that bears us down. I have referred to this work repeatedly as, "dragging one's fingernails down the blackboard of mind;" also as, "trying to pick up a dime (frozen to the ground) with very cold fingers enclosed in mittens." But it is possible. One cannot be "told" understanding, it must arise out of one's most private actions, in the mind. <---- Begin tutelage inserted in Message ----> zeropoint's response...... Everything is already there, not on the homepage, but here in the group. I am loathe to put up succinct statements on the page. The problem is that people, governments or cliques in governments do have the ability to doodle with scalar physics, and we are all in the process of being enslaved thereby. There is no point in mass producing Pandora's Boxes. We are already toast. I prefer to see those who would assemble the pieces, thereby demonstrating the "right stuff." The three "basic" questions presented in a recent post are continually answered and reanswered in varying degrees of detail, and with the passage of time and my own maturation in the grasping and wielding of Zeropoint Physics, the questions are answered with ever greater finesse and sophistication and scientific or academic deftness..........zeropoint I do indeed see the physics, yes. At least, I'm trying to; visualization is important, but a picture is worth billions and billions of words. ...................zeropoint: you have a hint to the answer to an interrogatory further down in these responses in this paragraph above, @PHEE. It is the nature of this didactive task that a picture only ties together a set of data "followed" by the inquiring mind. The heavens as we have seen them are the very picture needed. The behavior of the humans around us give us the answers we need. Citations of group behaviors in varying circumstances, behaviors of which zeropoint myself has spoken so often say what the images of the heavens depict, what analyses of vacuum genesis (Aspden) depict. The "moving picture" of creation is not available from this source. ........................ The most basic idea I'm getting is that of "As above, So below," to coin a Pagan phrase. That is, the same dynamics that define the motion of an electron around its nucleus define the motion of a planet around its sun. Everything orbits something of greater mass than itself. And since mass is energy, everything orbits that which has more energy than itself. The energy of an electron is miniscule compared to the strong nuclear force holding the nucleus together, and the energy of the earth is equally infinitesimal compared to the fission and fusion taking place in the sun. (I wonder what this says about the center of the Milky Way? How much mass and, therefore, energy IS there in the center for us to be forced into orbit around it??) So it would only make sense that the same forces that generate electrical currents in the earth's atmospheric layers would dictate the creation of forces in microscopic beebees; it's just on a smaller scale. As above, so below.... .....................zeropoint: The writing in the above paragraph, the arrangement of associations is too loose to approach as something answerable. You are rhapsodic, but not tight enough to convince anyone of even a general grasp. The details are absolutely fine and have been discussed in extremely minute detail. Try adding your posts together and doing a word search of the twenty four (24) elders. .................... I wonder how far inwards it goes, though? Will we some day peer inside a hadron and find our universe there, winking back at us like a mischievous donut? What would a scientist do upon making such a discovery? CAN science even make such a discovery? Science as we understand it, that is. I'm of the opinion that only spirituality and "magic," [zeropoint: this contradicts those utterances that earned you the nickname "smartypants". The light-switch produces magic to the Bushman, @PHEE] for lack of a better term, can teach us the real truth about the universe... and those who ignore them in favor of "hard facts" and "pure physics" are doomed to an eternity of failing to understand anything. [zeropoint: the hard facts are suggested in homework you have not likely done, you must read the verbiage surrounding the graphics provided in the Aspden lectures. coupled with the utterances of zeropoint, myself, this will open up for you the simple nature of reality's activities. Let me say this: As small as cake crumbs may be, One has to bake a cake to enjoy them. You have to hold the mass of material in mind before you can coalesce the simple understanding. The failure to do homework or to take in all of the soft material given here out of zeropoint's pecking, leaves one with no orientation to be able to realize the answers sought to questions not correctly perceived. I have said several times that the mind will recognize the answers because the mind is structured along the lines of the nature of creation of energy, motion, and light. Remember too that the Greys say that God is mind, the physical Cosmos and its uniting and underlying intelligence and laws. "You can lead a brain to wisdom, but you can't make it think." It is not possible to be told the answer. A certain act of will or a series of them are necessary to be able to realize the MENTALITY we are gathered here to develop each. For the last time: mixing the prosaic with the stuff of overunity "blows out the candle." Psycho-social-emotional posturing, characterizing and presented by your writing here shows the precise block to your being able to let the utterances provided you "snick into place."] .............................zeropoint: The hadron has been mentioned at least three times in a laborious recounting of lists of particle substituent to matter. Twice, at least, in additional uses of the term, the hadron has been described. One of those descriptions is a recitation of material read on a poster at the Ernest Orlando Lawrence National Laboratories. Can you cite the description? That description, to give you a hint, was tentative in nature, since the term is used in relation to other particles which are, in the circles of mighty intellects dealing professionally with these questions in academia, enigmas even though they are laboratory observations. zeropoint has offered fabulously simple suggestions as to how to conceive the nature of both the hadron and the particular (substituent to matter) particles with which it is tentatively associated. WHAT ARE THOSE associated particles. WHAT IS THE SUGGESTED way of conceiving the nature of the hadron by zeropoint; the suggestion was made in terms of the grid. WHAT IS ANOTHER TERM for the grid? ............................. You are truly gifted, z, in that you understand this already. If theoretical physicists were all like you, we'd have had warp drive 100 years ago. And I wanna be you when I grow up... :) ................zeropoint: The understanding has already been imparted to you and other ZEROPOINTERs. It has been done in terms of the anatomy of the heart of the center of the Milky Way. TWO PERSONS HAVE BEEN CITED AS HAVING DISCUSSED HOW LONG AGO WE SHOULD "have been traveling the galaxies ........... years ago", Who were those persons and how long ago, Smartypants PHEE? Anyone else remember? .............................. Glad the web pages are generating interest for you; now you just need to put it all together, the Grand Unified Zeropointer Theory, explaining all of it at once, and make THAT into a page... you'd be getting 1,000,000 hits a day. And dnai.com would drop you instantly... heh. ...................zeropoint: visits to the page have dropped from an average of 65/day to twenty/day in recent weeks. .................. Take care. -Brett <---- End Forwarded Message ---->