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Because of its nature this stuff is not copyrightable, unless copyrighted first; but it is certifiable by its source. We are always in danger of a clumsily designed post with all the email addresses IN IT. That list can be reorganized in a flash to be added to a junk mail list. ************** Those among you who are newest may not be aware of a particular file, Matrix.gif. You must see this file and consider it for the next array of statements zeropoint is about to make. i retract a former statement concerning the nature of the pyramid involved. When the file was presented, it was to aid in the visualization of geometric shapes as they ABSOLUTELY had to mediate the convergence (divergence? yes, divergence) of energy to matter. i had been using Cheops type pyramids and made negative comments about the image provided in keeping with a thread of thought concerning an interrogatory from @BobKreutzer, who has been diligent in goosing my ego from the earliest days when i insisted that the group had to do that to zeropoint inorder to get myself to "sing it out". Had i not started with the cube and inferred Cheops pyramids, i had not made the negative comment, since the mental image being elaborated was based on using the side of a cube and retaining that in the base of the pyramid while perpetuating my monological exercise on the blackboard of the mind. Doing that, keeping the sixth that was a surface of the cube felt clunky, but l pushed on. I ought to have gone to the pyramid via Mogen David rather than directly to and never out of nor through Egypt, but stuck there with a pyramid and grousing about its not being "right" but being unwilling to add to anyone's confusion by shifting analogies "in midstream." The love of the cube cripples the mind of man. It does not exist in nature and signifies nothing. Man loves the box. The box is a symbol of the pi-eth space. It is safe to make a graven image of a cube. But the eight corners of the cube are a myth and a lie. The only valid points on a cube are the centers of its surfaces. And so we i trap our my minds mind in boxes and box and bury just this self therein. So, Neanderthal got that far too, and tripped up, i.e., began to die too, but he had no oral tradition, nor the African nor anyone but Java man, when he went Cro Magnon and then went around telling everybody, spreading a creation story which reached Africa about 60,000 years ago. Notice Nelson Mandela's mongoloid features, if not from a recent intrusion, it complements the australo-asian language group of that region. Neanderthal had no oral nor written tradition, nor the African, nor anyone save Java man, at that time. - wild speculation but near gibberish that was fun to utter. Primordial human being in a casket, in Europe. (Neither primitive nor primordial humans exist. Such are else and less than human. The primordial humans are the jumping points from the evolution around the world of the parallel prototypes to manhood, toward which all motion in reality does antigravitate, toward the "point" where, in the profound culmination of emotion or love, something man must LEARN to do, to feel all emotions at once, and so learn to configure those emotions in uniform passion: to LOVE GOD, the ultimate singularity whose mercy accords with precise emulation of His self. The primitive is the child, or the "barefoot and pregnant" wife in Appalachia, or such a daughter, sister, niece or wage-slave, component processes to humanity, their own fulfillment deflected inasmuch as they are components to some other greater and as yet indeterminate personhood, humanity itself. Man must learn to round himself out, thereafter life is not only authentic, but free, the touchstone of authenticity being frozen out of USA, by the brutal enforcement of spurious and predatory law. i am going to try to link personal sensations with the four directions and the sphere and the equator and more importantly, the belt that is the magnetic equator where ions are gathered and/or electrons created. That is what is coming that this is a prelude to. (Buried where skimmers never tread.) Also, i may be able to be more firm about a particular orientation to the second local, the noumenal counterpart to the first and material locale which is comprised of matter in its various states, separated from the noumenal by the gas cloud, not by a "part" of matter such as a quark. We are undoubtedly looking at quarks in the sky and not recognizing them yet, owing to the prejudices of our specific pride. Also there is a noumenal gas cloud comprised of the functions we identify in the grammar of physics with nouns such as acceleration, motion, attraction and repulsion and which are all capable of being verbs without being gerunds, which they are when observed or confronted in this pi-eth space, inasmuch as they may not be the noun-ness of the ultimate noun we hear called the singularity for fear of society the teaming masses, should we use a social word for the swallower of smidgen sized singularities we like best to wonder about. The maker of angels. (How many pins can an Angel stand on? An angel stands on universes of universes of trivial pursuits, the arch angels anyway.) Consider the neutron star a primordial neutron which can be goosed into becoming something else and which else has a core that is made of six parts. The original (tenth dimensional) quarks are stupendous in scale of effect!!! For all we know, the human race are nascent quarks for the fractal next inward, the third fractal, the eighth dimension. The bible says so, giving us command over the qualities inherent in our own individual bodies, so that harmony and proper kow-towing, i.e., loving each other, will make the environment beneficial, not too much sun nor rain nor shaking, etc.; and geographically distinct populations will not be fascinated with or attracted to oneself, so that they come toward one with other than gifts. The more we beat and show extraordinary (Gingrich-like) callousness to each other, the more we are justifiably despicable in the eyes of our rivals-cum-enemies. But it is not clear to us what the bible means without a codices of scale and relevance. But families, clans, tribes, and nations are discernibly metamorphosed into those hierarchies we know as Americans and the otherwise Anglo-saxonized as well as the hierarchies among the pool of nations of whatever internal composition. Also, where the content of the triadic denotations of reality are seemingly obscured by moralisms or bad poetry, realize the substructures to be social or internal to some social entity or person with the misprint being in terms of superego, ego, id, or, Molar, molecular, micro as elements of the persona, the composition of self, which in a place like New York is the only way people favor to interact, talking into each other's thinking and having none of them the slightest thing to say. i will keep checking on the quark, which is tangential to having an accident, a certain class of accident, in one spacecraft and nothing more, really; unless you want a template for the process of making hamburgers out of vacuum energy. Hamburger in, hamburger out, but 400 times back the input. On two separate occasions, Jesus fed 4 - 5,000 individuals with about five fishes and five loaves. The math doesn't work out except that the original fishes and loaves were broken at least twice each and placed in other baskets out of which they multiplied the four hundred-fold, there being considerable multiplication as the fish left the sundering hands, hands acting out of the eighth dimension, unbeholden to time and to space, beyond the local ascendant zeropoint. i shall continue for the time being to consider a quark as being the meat of the equations defining each of the six transitions from anyone of the apices of two superimposed tetrahedrons in a cube. Can anyone do the arithmetic to see if the interior of the ark of the covenant is twice the height of tetrahedrons complementing its length? Would look for "stress" in the center? That gas cloud is the first occurrence of matter. Remember, when the bang occurs, there is NO MATTER. There is no matter for a "long" period of time. That matter appears as bubbles around the edge of a void, which void, not containing matter, contains no space. This space seems to have extent. This space has extension. The nature of this space is that it is ever extending. That space appears to me to be life. At any rate, it "outruns" and pervades its spawned spaces and their child spaces (other universes containing universes like ours) and those child child's spaces, children, individual humans who are children of the Christ, or the divine mother which is the entire ninth dimension, herself a created daughter (fractal) uttered by the first matter to be generated by the singularity of all singularities, one naked of all matter, of anything , force, etc. which is not ITSELF. (One might want to know of there are saucer sightings on either side of the planet, diametrically opposed, simultaneously. More exactly, if one is to continue to consider these "social" events coldly, cruelly and analytically, which i do, i am embarrassed by the flying saucer thing, inspite of myself, if one is absolutely objective and considers any and all reports with the dispassionate frame of mind with which the brain processes all noise or sound, whatever there is to come of it will come; and it will come in its own way and in its own time. So, one may want to consider that variously driven space vehicles may avoid the void or may necessarily intrude the voidness for the sake of some factor in propulsion. But the bubbles may be "googleplexic" (?, i mean big) in number AND breadth, when formed and able to form more within themselves, more singularities which may form bubbles containing singularities. This is what is happening pi number of times. It, creation, thereafter won't go any further; and there we find some condensation of all of the actions that have occurred: man. Man is inside something which is inside something which is inside something but the preposition is incorrect. Man is OUTSIDE of the center of INTENTION pi number of times. Pi number of times that space has collapsed inward on itself to indwell an infradimensional space, the fruits of which may yet again implode to some new birthing space. For man to create, she/he must direct the eighth dimension or replicate a situation or circumstance, some niche or role, or IDEA. or pattern of behavior. this comes back to love, since, obviously, we ought to learn to live so easily, doing away with the onerous aspersions cast on that biblical curse: work, and rush toward 50 to 100 billions in population. We would brutally have to optimize every aspect of human life and all would go well and joy would fill the world as the multiplying psyches left no room for the preconscious, the unconscious, the subconscious; and obliterated all the hitches rendered in the defense mechanisms: repression, suppression, reaction formation, denial, etc., except sublimation, which is the function of the creation of light and ecstasy and bliss and life that is fully collapsed, material, a body enfolding all the phases of matter in collagenous suspension. Man has to go IN to get be able to EXTEND himself from "godhead". Are saucers coming from a particular place in the sky or from AWAY from a particular place in or region of space, a thread or the string, or perhaps a wormhole, some liaison between this and a parallel space of the same pi-eth order, or through each of the spaces in a string to the voidness cohering original matter; something about which to think carefully. Also, how does one make a shape that will merely change scale or even shape harmlessly when moving through singularities. Can one generate a singularity that realizes itself WHERE it will. Is there a place to which one may take matter to collapse it? Is there a place one can manufacture where one can place one's junk so as to play with it in this way, engendering conditions wherein one renders matter ultradense. YUP.) Each of these series of internalized bubbles is a fractal set, a level of "creation" of increasingly enfolded motion - child universes which are the subtext of the creation and maturation of their living parent universes. Each higher numbered fractal is the subtext of the eventualities of creation in the proximal lower numbered fractal. The "spaces" in between parent and child are the "zero point" fields which i call the second locales; the quality of the space is that it is principle, it is not really there; and, if one chooses to go into it, one had better be wearing a neutron skin, so that one may have the option of offering up light rather than skin or structural integrity. They are distinctive in quality among themselves, they may even "feel' different. The second locales or "cells" are zeropoint fields or the correlative laws and frequencies of the matter of a particular scale of magnitude, i.e., proton, iron atoms, macro molecule; or: galaxy, sun, moon shepherded biogenic planet; or: the functional triads of psyche or persona; optimal orderings of governance, grand-parenting, harmonic or vibratory tolerances of crystalline structures. Think about the way Robert Monroe speaks of positioning oneself so that one has a subtle but quite firm feeling of comfortableness regardless of the fact that one may be on the floor. Also consider the same kind of talk by Don Juan the Yaqui Indian, of the tetrology by Carlos Castenada. (Skip the rest of the books, no valuation given.) At any rate, one must be fully collapsed and nested before venturing out of one's own "space". Not being so makes it deadly to transit fractals, since the particle=>wave=>particle transitions required are required. One's meat won't have any problems, but one's contraption might. After i do this, you should be able to begin to feel your way around this stuff. If i can, i will show one how to align each of the curves with FEELINGS. This will be in lieu of the schema for threading a second locale and overlaying it with those second locales of derivative and/or parenting fractals, which second locales i accept to call "zero point fields", copying terminology from the documentary, the academics. Ever hesitant to generate neologisms. The third of the "Mysteries in Deep Space" shows will be this coming Monday, with the repeat of last Monday's, to be made the previous night, in SF Bay area, anyway, Sunday night. These will be repeated quite often, so you should take advantage of these, since it is the purpose of the whole schlemozel here to allow one to be able to understand optimally what is being said by the scientists, they themselves see to that, and to understand what it is that they present, the actual data they present. When this has run its course, this zeropoint thing, you should any one of the three plus dozen of you, be able to explain to any authentic specialist in the fields touched by this skewering and stringing and threading aspect of reality what he is doing and how he ought to be able to go about doing it. But first you will have to be walked through a ride and will be shown where the vomit bags are. The thinking can actually make one queasy, it is grand and delightful stuff. later......