The Sims Link to English Royalty

The Sims family of Poundsford, Somerset, England appears to be related to English royalty according to some genealogies I've seen out on the Web. I spent some time looking for the individuals mentioned in the genealogy and have provided some Web links to other sources of this family's genealogy on the Web.

There is an illegitimate relationship here, but it's one which seems to have some documentation. Cardinal Henry de Beaufort had a liaison with Lady Alice Fitz Alan. They had a daughter Joan de Beaufort. Henry never married and mentioned Joan and her husband Sir Edward Stradling in his will according to Albert E. Myers who mentions this fact in his Web genealogy.

I've done a few turns around the block, and the genealogy looks good to me, but if you're a dedicated Poundsford Sims, you probably will want to verify the links to King Edward III. Verification of the lineage may possibly be found in an English database called Directory of Royal Genealogical Data compiled by Brian Thompsett. Be sure to check his Bibliography.

Note: This database has gotten mixed reviews from Medieval/Royal genealogists so travel at your own risk. Check the RootsWeb GEN-MEDIEVAL list for more info. The links I've provided in the lineage below certainly are only links, not proof. Royal genealogies seem to bring the lion out in folk so tread softly. Notwithstanding, I must add, it's fun stuff. BTW, Ralph Troop, a Sims descendant, has graciously offered to put the genealogy to the test on the RootsWeb Medieval list. We'll see what happens. Search the GEN-MEDIEVAL Archives

Another source is Ancestry.com's World Tree. I've checked the site and just about every name in the following genealogy is available via some GEDCOM held there. I figured out how their search syntax works, so I've provided links which will search their database and give you the results. (Note: I just discovered they changed the way they search, so I'll update the links when I have a chance.) Warning, some of these GEDCOMs contain more than 10,000 individuals. When a tree gets to be that vast, you gotta wonder if there's truth behind the text. (Irony noted.)

King Edward III to Thomas Symes

(1) King Edward III Link | Link |
b. 13 Nov 1312, Windsor Castle
d. 22 Jun 1377
& Philippia of Hinault Link |
b. 24 Jun 1311, Valenciennes
d. 14 Aug 1369, Windsor Castle
m. 24 Jun 1328, York Minister
|   (2) "John of Gaunt" Plantagenet* Link | Link |
|   & Katherine or Catherine de Roet (third wife) Link |
|    b. abt 1350, Hanault
|    d. 10 May 1403
|    m. 13 Jan 1395, or 1396
          (Note: Also had a daughter Joan de Beaufort who may be confused with daughter of Cardinal Henry.)
|   |   (3) Cardinal Henry de Beaufort Link | Link | Link | Link | Link |
|   |    b. abt 1375, Lincoln
|   |    d. 11 Apr 1447, Winchester
|   |   & Lady Alice Fitz Alan Link | Link | Link | Ancestry.com Link
|   |    b. abt 1375
|   |    d. 11 Apr 1447, Winchester
|   |   |   (4) Joan Beaufort Link |
|   |   |    b. abt 1393
|   |   |   & Sir Edward III Stradling Link | Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |    b. abt 1389, St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   (5) Sir Henry Stradling
|   |   |   |    b. abt 1423, St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |    d. abt 1478, Panagusta, Cyprus
|   |   |   |   & Elizabeth Herbert Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   (6) Thomas Stradling Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |    b. abt 1455, St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   |    d. 8 Sep 1480, St. Donant's Castle
|   |   |   |   |   & Janet Mathew Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |    d. abt 1485
|   |   |   |   |   |   (7) Sir Edward IV Stradling
|   |   |   |   |   |    b. abt 1480, St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   |   |    d. 8 May 1535, St. Donant's Castle
|   |   |   |   |   |   & Elizabeth Arundel Link | Link | Link | Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |    d. 20 Feb 1513, 1514 St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   (8) Jane Stradling Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. 20 Feb 1513, 1514 St. Donant's Castle, Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   & Alexander Popham Link | Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. Huntsworth, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   (9) Sir John Popham Link | Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. abt 1531, Huntsworth, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. 23 Jun 1607, Wellington, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   & Amy Games Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. Glamorgan Co Wales
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. bef 1604, Wellington, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    m. abt 1560
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   (10) Amy Popham Ancestry.com Link |Link to Adam and Eve!
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. Huntsworth, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. bef 1604, Mels, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   & Thomas, Esq. Horner Link| Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. abt 1607, Mels, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. Mels, Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    m. Somerset Co England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   (11) Amy Horner Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. abt 1585, Mels, Somerset County, England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. bef 1658, Winterbourne, Dorset County, England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   & John , Sr. Sir Symes Ancestry.com Link > Email Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b. 4 Mar 1571, or 1572 Poundsford, Charde, Somerset, England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d. 21 Oct 1661, Gloucester County, England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    m. abt 1604, Poundsford, Chardes, Somerset, England
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    (12) Thomas SYMES, Esq. Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b: 1605 Poundsford, Co. Somerset, Eng.
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    d: 1667 Co. Somerset, Eng.
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    & Amy BRIDGES Ancestry.com Link
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    b: Abt. 1618 Keynsham, Co. Somerset, Eng.
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   d: Abt. 1665 Co. Somerset, Eng.
|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    m: 30 Jul, 1640 Keynsham, Co. Somerset, Eng.





If you've got more documentation or Web links, I'd be grateful if you'd send 'em along. My email address is Lisa Simms, lsimms@world.std.com