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Q. #101   (12/09/01)

Would anyone out there have an idea as to the size of the enamel sign located on the left hand side of the Hood Pfaudler cars? Also, the size of the lettering and stripes. I know the stripes and letters were red.

-Tom Laware

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Q. #102   (12/09/01)

Does anyone know of any plans for the inspection engine NE-HA-SA-NE?. Does anyone have suggestions on how to model this 4-4-0?

-Michael Hobbs

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Q. #103   (12/09/01)

What are the best kits available to model the coaling tower and the water tower in the Bellows Falls yard?

-Donn Welton

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Q. #104   (12/09/01)

What happened to ex-Rutland GE 70-Tonner No. 500 after it went to Kelley's Creek & Northwestern RR as their #11?

-Dennis Wood

A (05/26/03)

I found a site run by Matthew Shawver on the Kelly's Creek and Northwestern Railroad, which was the third owner of Rutland 70 Tonner #500. (As Rutland fans know, Rutland 500 was leased and then sold to the Clarendon & Pittsford in the early 1960s. The new owner kept #500 in Rutland green and yellow but with the road name on the hood replaced with the initials "C&P". The C&P in turn sold the 70 Tonner to the KC&NW in April 1972, where it became #11.)

I contacted Matt for more information about this unit. Here's what he says...

"Kelly's Creek & Northwestern #11 operated for an extended period in its original green and yellow Rutland paint, until general manager Donald C Howe ordered John Carter to put it in KC&NW colors. A local painter was hired for the work. This contractor used window putty to fill the dents, common house paint for the blue and yellow scheme, and lettered by eye in a very crude fashion. Like KC&NW #9, #11 was sold to P.W. Duffy and Son (a used railroad equipment dealer) for $5,000 in October, 1982. It remained on the property until late 1983 or early 1984."

Matt's web site on the KC&NW and its sister company, the Kelly's Creek RR, can be found at:

-Trevor Marshall

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Q. #105   (12/09/01)

Is there is any evidence of the 0-8-0 switchers being used on the Bellows Falls sub? My information seems to indicate that they did not venture south of Rutland.

-Bob Ring

(12/11/01)  What specific steam switchers are known to have worked Bellows Falls yard and when?

-Jim Dufour

A (12/11/01)

In my many "field trips" to the Rutland in the 1940s and 1950s the only places that I ever saw a Rutland 0-8-0 was Rutland and Alburgh.  0-6-0s only at Bellows Falls.

-Dwight Smith

A (12/17/01)

[Regarding the Rutland's two 0-8-0 switchers] #109 was assigned to Alburgh and #110 was assigned to Rutland yard. The only time that #109 would leave Alburgh was for major work. All 90 day inspections and boiler wash downs were done in the enginehouse in Alburgh. To the best of my knowledge, they were never used in Bellows Falls.

-Steve Mumley

A (09/01/03)

[0-6-0] #100 worked the Burlington yard. [0-6-0] #107 worked Burlington and was briefly in Alburgh. I also believe that [0-6-0] #104 worked in Ogdensburgh.

-Armand Premo

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Q. #106   (12/16/01) 

I am building the old Storzek kit of Rutland boxcar #7999. Any idea what kind of trucks it wore prior to 1937?

-Chuck Hladik

A (10/27/02)

I just dug out my unassembled Storzek Rutland SS Box Car 1917-3 kit and, in short, the original five-hundred CN 260000-260499 series cars were delivered with Arch Bar trucks. According to the instructions (which credit Ken Goslett of the CNRRHA, Stafford Swain, and John Nehrich) the cars were built in late 1916 and early 1917 by Canadian Car & Foundry. "As built, the cars had doors for loading both lumber and rail in their A ends....Later still, cast steel AAR style trucks replaced the original archbar type..."

A quick search of my limited photo files show no evidence of the 7999 with archbar trucks.

-Rome Romano

A (10/27/02)

An "informed guess" would be:

The car was built with heavy duty arch bar trucks. It would not be beyond the realm of possibility that the Rutland salvaged the trucks when they fished the rest of the car out [Lake Champlain]. The trucks would have been changed out for Bettendorfs sometime before 1937. The car almost certainly would never have run on the T-section Bettendorfs that were common on the Rutland in the 1920's, as those were 40-ton trucks, and I have heard no mention of the car having been re-rated from it's 50-ton capacity at any time during it's career.

-Chris Martin

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Q. #107   (01/05/02)  I am looking for references and plans to convert an MDC HO scale caboose into a Rutland 40-series van.

-Joel Norman

A (01/06/02)   I would suggest you contact the NEB&W club at RPI as they had a number of such cars on their model railroad at one time.

-Rome Romano

A (01/27/02) Check out Bill Badger's description converting an MDC kit into Rutland No. 43.

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Q. #108   (01/05/02)  A recent discussion in the Amtrak Forum on concerned the proposal to revive Boston-Montreal passenger train service and the likely routes such service might take. In an historical context I mentioned the Green Mountain Flyer/Mount Royal route via Bellows Falls and Rutland. It was stated that the through car service on the Boston-Montreal  leg of the Green Mountain Flyer was terminated about 1947, requiring a change of cars at Rutland. I had never heard this before nor do I find reference to it in Shaughnessy's The Rutland Road. What's the story?

-Peter Eldridge

A (01/06/02)   I have a representative selection of Boston and Maine public timetables from the 1930's through the early 1950's. My search indicates that in the June 22, 1940 issue there was a through Boston-Montreal 10sec-2cpt-1DR Pullman from Boston to Montreal via the Mount Royal, but no through coach. In the June 26, 1942 edition there were NO through cars, either Pullman or coach, between Boston and Montreal on this train--there was a through 12sect-1DR Pullman from Boston to Ogdensburg (to Burlington on Saturday). After the end of World War II, no resumption of through car service from Boston to Montreal via the Mount Royal shows up.

-Charles Harmantas

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Q. #109   (01/05/02)  What were the telegraph and telephone wires that ran down the Corkscrew Division? I am familiar with wires 25/26 (and the #36 telegraph circuit that was simplexed on them), and wires 35/36, running from Rutland to Bennington. I also see that the Rutland Dispatcher's phone and telegraph wires 51 and 131 appeared at Petersburg Jct, according to B&M plans. Does anyone else follow this obscure genre?

-Brian Dame

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Q. #110   (01/05/02)  Do you know of any suppliers of decals for Rutland steam locomotives in N scale? I could only find diesels from Microscale. If not, do you know of any substitutes in the correct type face, color, and size that can be pieced together?

-Phil Kuczewski.

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